Notes from the middleground

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Autumn Dance, a naruto fanfic | FanFiction

Naruto and Sakura discover that the transitional seasons can reveal the true nature of things whether you want it to or not.

I wrote this story three years ago. NaruSaku was considered dead around that time as well IIRC, I suppose the more things change the more they  stay the same.  I forgot about this story but it seems more relevant now than it did 3 years ago. Let me know what you think

marriedtofiction reblogged your post Huh? and added:

really? when sasuke said sakura was useless some chapters back, a bunch of people jumped ships. ss fans were actually

Ok I didn’t see this but it will help me sleep better knowing this

Huh?

There are a lot of places in this fandom I don’t lurk so this might be ignorance on my part.

I’ve met a handful of former NH fans. Not much but a couple

I’ve seen plenty of former NaruSaku fans in this fandom. Pretty much every year it turns out Sakura loves Sasuke there’s a bit of a purge.There is a steady transfer of NaruSaku to Anti-big 3

Now I’ve met SASUKE FANS who ended up liking Sasuke more with Naruto, Karin or someone else other than Sakura. Sasuke fans who acknowledge Sasuke probably does not really care all that much about Sakura romantically.

My memory may fail me but I rarely come across former SS members. despite an entire second half of the manga filled with negativity I don’t hear about people jumping ship.

I find that strange

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Something I made in 2011
a) Metaphor for SasuSaku attempting to be canon
b) Metaphor for SasuSaku attempting to be a romantic pairing

c) All of the above

a) Metaphor for SasuSaku attempting to be canon

b) Metaphor for SasuSaku attempting to be a romantic pairing

c) All of the above

Something to consider regarding the authorial reasoning behind Sakura’s actions.

I was not completely taken off guard with the “revelation” that Sakura loves Sasuke and whatnot, it’s the confession itself that seemed unsettling. The declaration, Sakura’s tears, Sasuke’s indifference, the genjutsu.

It just seemed wrong, and as a NaruSaku fan I know there’s a better alternative for Sakura out there so obviously it was frustrating.

Now I don’t think it hurts NaruSaku’s chances of being canon however it seems to hurt the perception of the pairing depending on how you look at.

Now I get a lot of the complaints but all of it sort of confirms to me that Kishi is playing with perceptions and themes. This is where the readers and Kishi are like ships passing in the night. (Note: I am not saying Kishi is a good writer)

Theme:

Let’s consider that Sakura will not abandon Sasuke while he is in darkness. She won’t, Naruto won’t.

Wrap your head around this if Sakura and Naruto share this similar character trait, consider if Naruto had romantic interest in Sasuke.

*Wait a minute SN I’m not talking to yall*

Would he have reacted much differently than Sakura has here?

See tie Sakura’s wish to not abandon Sasuke to darkness with the romantic interest she’s had for him for years and from Kishi’s POV, considering how he writes his story, it may be highly unlikely Sakura simply moves on from Darkness Sasuke as we all want her to do. It might actually be impossible without having this situation resolved.

The big problem is that perhaps the NaruSaku fandom was looking at NaruSaku and thinking it was growing independently from the main plot-line and its themes.  This has not been the case, every time NS has gotten to a certain point the problem of Sasuke (Aka the main plot) directly or indirectly showed up and seemingly curbed the relationship.

That has to be thematically resolved for both Naruto and Sakura IMO

Before I continue very quickly I think NS is the closest to being canon because of but not limited to these reasons

1) SS has not been built up at all in fact if it hasn’t gotten worse it’s just never changed. Kishi has shown no growth in that relationship, unless you consider growth to be well instead of hitting her to knock her out after he rejects her confession Sasuke mind-freaks her now.

2) In the climax of the story Hinata is as important as Shino. Her story does not tie into Naruto’s life in any truly important or significant way.

Perception:

Now you might say “I don’t buy it there’s no way Sakura still being in love with Sasuke is good for NaruSaku.”

You might be right, I can see how it hurts the pairing in many people eyes

But perhaps consider for a moment form Kishi’s eyes

IMO It should be considered that maybe for good or bad Kishi doesn’t want Naruto to “win” just because Sasuke is bad.

Now you and I can see that being in love with a mad man like Sasuke is nuts and Sakura should have dropped that a long time ago since Kishi has shown time and time again Sasuke doesn’t care. You would imagine if he’s building SS he would put a little effort into Sasuke and romance.

AND

It’s to say that it is good writing for certain things to be obviously (plot, character development) set up and perhaps some may argue sacrificed for a complete Naruto “victory”

That it may be wise to consider the author feels it would be more meaningful for Naruto to have Sakura fall out of love with redeemed Sasuke.

That’s my two cents on it

Just ride it out   

narusakudefencesquad:

bodegacowboy:

narusakudefencesquad:

bodegacowboy:

Whether Sakura said “love” or “loved” what we can reasonably assume is that she’s still dealing with her feelings. This means NaruSaku will likely not happen at the end of this Naruto Sasuke fight there’s just not enough time for true reflection on Sakura’s part

But we know Naruto will confess…

No. Narusaku has had it’s development through out the manga. It’s not a sudden thing if Sakura reallses she’s in love with naruto.

I don’t see sasuke reciprocating sakuras feelings ever. I’m pretty sure this chapter explained that well enough. Time skip or not. And since when did movies suddenly decide the outcome of the manga? Kishi must know that manga readers will not necessarily watch the anime, he can’t not finish the manga with the movie. That’s out of place.

I didnt mean things would happen in the movie. I am not even convinced the movie will be canon.

Timeskip could be days or months in the manga. Im just saying I dont think Sakura will figure it out by the time the fight ends nor will Naruto just dump Sasuke’s body at her feet and then confess

It’ll take a bit more time judging from how things seem to be playing out

Well i dont believe sasuke will die. I believe sasuke will be beaten by naruto, and naruto would make peace with him. I also think after he has fulfilled his promise he will confess to sakura like the dork he is. 

I believe before all this happens, sakura will realise her feelings for naruto and its not too fast nor too out of place for this to happen. After all, through the entire manga, its always been mostly them two together. 

I meant Sasuke’s unconscious body.

I find it hard to see after the last chapter that Sakura will have it all come together at once after just waking up from genjutsu.

Nor do I think Naruto will confess immediatley after beating Sasuke. At least they will go home. Plus Naruto being dense, if Sasuke for some reason returns to the Leaf, would probably do the same thing he did at the hospital in part 1 and try to leave Sasuke and Sakura alone for a moment before trying anything.

The only way I can see an immediate impact like you are implying is if Nauto is about to be killed again and Sakura is forced to save him again.

For the folk jumping ship something to consider.

I understand the concept that Sakura should have fallen out of love with Sasuke at this time. I underatand the perception that it has hurt Sakura’s character.

However consider these fandom implications.

Now I am coming from the position that NS will still happens because the story to me set it up so much that its very cliche.

Anyway countless times we have been told this isnt the real Sasuke hes in darkness.

We have all come to understand Sakura was clinging to a love of the old Sasuke.

If NaruSaku happens after this fight. After priestly Naruto absolves Sasuke of his sins. After Sasuke is a good guy again.

Sakura will have rejected good Sasuke.

For Narsaku to happen now Sakura will turn down SS Sasuke.

There will be no excuses. No silver medal arguement.

Sakura rejecting redeemed Sasuke destroys that concept of second place rebound Naruto completely even though it was already a ridiculous arguement. It kills it officially.

Idk about you but I will enjoy that at the very least.

Just ride it out   

narusakudefencesquad:

bodegacowboy:

Whether Sakura said “love” or “loved” what we can reasonably assume is that she’s still dealing with her feelings. This means NaruSaku will likely not happen at the end of this Naruto Sasuke fight there’s just not enough time for true reflection on Sakura’s part

But we know Naruto will confess…

No. Narusaku has had it’s development through out the manga. It’s not a sudden thing if Sakura reallses she’s in love with naruto.

I don’t see sasuke reciprocating sakuras feelings ever. I’m pretty sure this chapter explained that well enough. Time skip or not. And since when did movies suddenly decide the outcome of the manga? Kishi must know that manga readers will not necessarily watch the anime, he can’t not finish the manga with the movie. That’s out of place.

I didnt mean things would happen in the movie. I am not even convinced the movie will be canon.

Timeskip could be days or months in the manga. Im just saying I dont think Sakura will figure it out by the time the fight ends nor will Naruto just dump Sasuke’s body at her feet and then confess

It’ll take a bit more time judging from how things seem to be playing out

Just ride it out

Whether Sakura said “love” or “loved” what we can reasonably assume is that she’s still dealing with her feelings. This means NaruSaku will likely not happen at the end of this Naruto Sasuke fight there’s just not enough time for true reflection on Sakura’s part

But we know Naruto will confess eventually once Sasuke is back on the good side.

With Sakura rejected once more time and Naruto sure to confess. Do some of you actually think its more likely after a timeskip or something Sasuke reciprocating Sakura’s feelings or Sakura turning around?

What I am still holding out hope for is the problem of Kishi writing it halfway decently.